[matchbok3]

If this "management" is so incompetent and ineffective, the workers shouldn't need them, right? They should just start their own company.

Didn't think so.

This simplistic view of "management" is detrimental to a productive conversation and doesn't reflect reality.

[ionwake]

A comment from a new account with Negative inference statements.

This is the kind of weird ass replies I just said appeared last time.

PS - You are editing your comment which is fine, but in turn I have to reply. If it is not reflective of reality feel free to add to the discussion and explain what is false. Also ironically your statement doesnt add to the discussion by elaborating on any part of it. This is exactly the kind of behaviour that doesnt help anyone learn any lessons. its just random insults.

[matchbok3]

Your avoidance of answering my question provides me with more than enough knowledge about your capabilities regarding engaging in this topic in a thoughtful, intelligent manner.

[Capricorn2481]

This is a puzzling comment. Are you asking why the famously underpaid game developers don't bootstrap their own company? Because the answer seems fairly obvious, and it says nothing about the quality of Rockstar's management.

Does the concept of redundant middle management scandalize you? It's a relatively common experience, even if it's sometimes exaggerated. It actually takes a lot to be a good manager, and most people are not self aware enough to be good at it.

[matchbok3]

I am directly responding to the claims that management is useless and not needed. It's not puzzling at all.

[ionwake]

Its actually brilliant I mentioned someone behaved like butthurt management last time and now its happening again with random insults and platitudes.

Now we get to hear about how obviously great management at Rockstar is compared to the worker there. Apparently its just obvious because otherwise, those workers would be management themselves.

If I was younger i would think this was a troll but Ive genuinely met managers like this. They think they are just better than people who are not themselves managers. Which literally makes no sense. As if the only purpose in a career is rank. They take no responsibility and feel personally attacked when its suggested.

[matchbok3]

Nobody is butthurt, kid. I responded to a specific claim. Instead you throw around insults like a child.

Literally nobody, including myself, is claiming anyone is "better".

Again, again, again. If you still management at these companies is not a key reason for their success and are instead redundant, useless, or otherwise not important, it should be trivial for competitors to do a better job. It's not that complicated.

[ranguna]

I don't think it's the need for management that makes devs not start a new company, it's the huge amount of money and connections needed. You don't need someone managing you to get connections and money, you just need the connections and the money.