[Mashimo]

> Uncles don’t let relatives buy less than 16gb ram. That has been my standard since ~2010 and our 2013 mbp is still running fine because I insisted on it.

Just last weekend I bought 8gb ram thinkpad t14 for an elderly relative. 240 EUR.

It replaces his thinkpad x220 where the fan and ssd slowly dies.

I doubt it becomes an issue, and if it does then I can upgrade it later.

[mixmastamyk]

You can do it once and spend an extra hundred dollars or do it twice, including occasional restrictions to the user. Poor tradeoff imho.

This is a young person with a long life ahead, we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.

[NicuCalcea]

Someone has to buy that (presumably second-hand) laptop to prevent it from becoming e-waste. 8GB can be plenty for a student, most don't need much beyond a browser and PowerPoint. Many of my university colleagues were using new $5,000+ MacBook Pros exclusively for Google Docs, that seems more wasteful to me.

[entropie]

8gb ram is not enough for normal browsing if you are forced to use windows 11 which eats easily half of it.

[Mashimo]

> we shouldn’t buy disposable ewaste with a short life.

Indeed. That makes two of us.