[pjmlp]

Many of those features were already available in MS-DOS and Windows 3.x IDEs from Borland for Turbo Pascal and C++.

Which is why when I got into UNIX development felt like going into the stone age of development tools, thankfully XEmacs was already there.

Which by the way, it was born for Energize C++, in 1993!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQQTScuApWk

Also here is what NeXTSTEP development environment looked like, used for Quake tooling development, in a 1991 marketing video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhfB-NICzg

Which is why, I usually assert I cannot understand the nostalgia of CLI and TUI, being there at the time, and not being able to use some of these systems, due to the amount of money they required.

[kristopolous]

The appeal of the cli/tui is because agents can use them better and because people want to ssh in and just use something without any fuss or lag

And I know the hn reply, it's "what do you mean? all you have to do is this other thing over here" and that's the point ... people don't want to. So they don't.

[pjmlp]

I rather use orchestration engines like Langflow, Opal, workato,..

[skydhash]

> Which is why, I usually assert I cannot understand the nostalgia of CLI and TUI, being there at the time, and not being able to use some of these systems, due to the amount of money they required.

I was not there at the time, but one appeal of CLI (not TUI) is scripting. After a while, you have all your routine packaged in nice alias and commands. And that’s universal across all languages and projects.

[pjmlp]

That is achievable with proper REPLs.

[joe_mamba]

>Which is why, I usually assert I cannot understand the nostalgia of CLI and TUI

Elitism

[pjmlp]

Yeah, right. :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/cinescenes/comments/18h22ug/hackers...

[i_am_a_peasant]

sometimes you wanna do debugging on a device that has no screen or ethernet port too

[pjmlp]

Debugging can be done even by serial ports and JTAG.