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by coldtea 24 days ago
>Simple fix, stop hovering the HN frontpage every hour, don't read every news item you come across, it isn't needed, and probably isn't good for our psyche either :)

A, yes, denial with fix everything.

Like when the AI either costs them their job, or crashes as a bubble and takes the economy and their livelihood with it.

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Filtering what information you let affect your brain and mood isn't "denial", it's taking care of what you consume.

Try sitting and reading about death, suicide, harassment, violence exclusively for a week, like if you were a social media moderator, and you'll notice how quickly you're affected by these things, even if it doesn't feel like it in the moment.

> Like when the AI either costs them their job, or crashes as a bubble and takes the economy and their livelihood with it.

Yes, this sucks, regardless of why it happens, it just straight up sucks. In 2008 we had a large financial crisis here, it sucked for most people in the country, either directly or indirectly. But you move forward, find other ways to live your life, adjust what you can and life goes on.

Today obviously is different, but back then it felt impossible things would ever change and return to normal.

>Today obviously is different, but back then it felt impossible things would ever change and return to normal.

And that feeling was right: they never did return back to normal. If anything, they've gotten worse!

Well, my context is Spain, maybe in your country it's differently today, but compared to the times I wrote about in my previous comment, things are a lot better today, and lots of people who previously weren't thriving are today, unemployment gets lower all the time and the economy seems to recover faster than other countries.

Maybe try a better country next time? :)

> Filtering what information you let affect your brain and mood isn't "denial", it's taking care of what you consume.

But that starts with telling you off. Someone says "I am tired of Y happening so often", and you talk to them like you're their nanny.

> Yes, this sucks, regardless of why it happens

No, the reasons why it happens is why it sucks. And the reasons are of supreme importance, being the reasons, and are also the key to making things better. It starts with paying attention.

> you move forward, find other ways to live your life, adjust what you can and life goes on.

Yes. You say "this sucks", someone tells you how to live your life, you tell them off and move on.

Did they? Life is worse than before the financial crisis.
After 2008, things got better for some and worse for most. I am in the former group but it doesn’t make me oblivious to the latter.
I just wanted to let you know my career ended in 2008, directly due to the global recession, and it never restarted despite intense effort.

Your feeling that “everything will return to normal” is not actually rational.

That's truly terrible, and I'm sorry you went through that.

I think we're talking about two different countries here, everything did go back to normal here, and things are today better than ever for most people. I'm sad that that didn't happen where you live too, but it is very rational and real, it's actually what has already happened.

Choosing to not consume the endless deluge of shit is not denial, it's self-care. If AI will take their (or my) job, doomscrolling isn't going to change that. That may be defeatist, but the forces at play are bigger than myself or my internet browsing habits.
> doomscrolling isn't going to change that

How do you get from "I'm tired of the frequency of these scams" to "doomscrolling"?

People discussing things, finding out they're all against being exploited and driven into poverty or death, and coordinating to change that is very powerful. It's the reason we discuss this by being able to read and write, rather than while slaving in a mine.

Why do you think so much slop is generated? In part also to keep that from happening. Because that's what healthy humans normally do, if you let them, if you don't interfere. Just like a wound normally simply heals. These natural and common reactions of humans to such things are the solution, not the problem. Let them actually do their work. If you are exhausted or just apathic, the positive contribution you can still make is to stand aside.

Or even simpler stuff like RAM and SSD (and soon phones) will be reasonably priced