[Quarrelsome]

I disagree. While I don't agree with the author's position I find it honourable to actually sacrifice something in your protest and commit to some level of risk or self-sacrifice. While its all very nice to gather your friends and stand around with placards for a day, often you're barely risking or sacrificing anything. A cynical assessment would be: "you're just hanging out".

The author isn't hanging out and specifically introducing consequences to those they wish to punish for actions they don't agree with. If more people protested like this we'd see more social change. But people don't like to risk or sacrifice; so we don't. People who reject ethical positions often do not face social consequences.

Consider a world where owning an SUV carried a significant risk that it would be vandalised. People would buy them less and there would be less co2 in the atmosphere due to those willing to sacrifice themselves by spending time in a jail cell for their acts of vandalism.

[Vaslo]

“Consider a world where you’d be mocked and shamed publicly for having an abortion. People would have them less and there would be less dead fetuses in the world due to those willing to sacrifice themselves by spending time in a jail cell for their acts of shaming.”

Just wanted to make sure you knew how that sounded, since either political side could try to justify their bad behavior.

[keybored]

Consider a world where a pedophilic cabal of billionaires openly announce that they want to obsolete you. You can voice your complaint in this comment box if you disagree with that hypothetical.

[Quarrelsome]

yeah we live in that world innit?

That gives that person the opportunity to go out there in our shared spaces and it gives me the opportunity to disagree with them, share my perspective and oppose them. Maybe someone goes to jail or whatever. But conflict is an important part of society.

Rather that than people living in their own bubbles, thinking everyone agrees with them while sitting on their hands and whining into the void and thinking that counts as progress. Put yourself out there, take a risk, engage with your opposition, you might learn something about them or about yourself.

[Vaslo]

Conflict is fine and should be tolerated. Breaking someone’s car because you’re part of some environmental doomsday cult or publicly identifying an abortion recipient is not.

I was in a fraternity and some city kids came down our street and busted into a few cars. A few of our brothers were up, woke the house and chased one of the kids down. He ended up in the hospital. People arent going to just call the police. You’re thinking you are nelson Mandela in jail and it’s not going to end up that way.

[perching_aix]

Have you considered what day to day life in such a world would be like? You have your happy path down, sure. Do you not feel like you're missing something?

[fragmede]

Ask the French and their public transit reliability with regards to that.

[perching_aix]

Reminds me: https://youtu.be/wp84sRpM1Js

[kelnos]

They're not sacrificing anything, though. They're just deleting their users' code without their consent. That's not honorable or noble.

[tancop]

making a real sacrifice is something that only affects you and the bad guys. fire bomb a data center and go to jail. leak internal chats or code showing your company lied to users and get fired. when third parties get hurt that makes you lord farquaad. "some of you may die but thats a sacrifice im willing to make"

[adamtaylor_13]

People are free to do exactly that. The problem is very few people actually believe as strongly as they'd like to posture online.

SUVs aren't vandalized because people talk a big game online where there are zero consequences, and shrink down to the level of their actual beliefs in real life.

It's all just posturing to show that you fit in with some crowd. Very few people actually care as much as they want everyone to believe. So, uh, yeah... I guess points to the jqwik crew for being "true believers". Hope that works out as well as it should for them.