[altairprime]

Let me introduce you to the HomeAssistant gardening community, and note that the very first Dashboard screenshot shown opens with two separate entire beds of tomato plants:

https://www.briandorey.com/post/pi-pico-lora-remote-soil-mon...

If one is leading a Python (or a Zig!) meetup and has an aversive reaction to tomatoes, and said meetup has been all up about gardening for the past three events, it’s very plausible to imagine them soft-banning people from bringing tomato plants to show and tell. Sure, they’ll be teased mercilessly about it at first, and some jerk might troll them about it and get the boot, but ultimately it’s just an outlier human foible that will be accommodated with mostly grace and humor. And then there will almost certainly also, immediately, form a Tomato Cabal who goes out of their way to farm tomatoes with Python/Zig while specifically keeping it a wink-nod secret that they’re doing so, and someday the organizer will discover this and laugh in spite of their disgust and give the cabal an honorary Tomato Day event where the cabal leads that day’s proceedings and the usual leader stays home and watches desert movies and eats chips and salsa with secret, vicious glee and never tells another living soul.

Healthy human BOFs are the best form of social ever :D

[skeledrew]

That's going pretty far out on a limb (hah!) to create some artificial relevance given the context. Meanwhile LLMs are easily relevant in almost every way that matters to programming languages, more than even IDEs.

[altairprime]

That doesn’t limit formation of a subcommittee to concentrate their discussion for the health of the group. Any topic is eligible based on group impact regardless of its perceived breadth by those avidly discussing it.

[skeledrew]

Subcommittees/subgroups are perfectly fine of course. But, again, given the context, this isn't that case. This is a core person in the ecosystem making a strong suggestion about how general groups should operate. Doesn't take much imagination to see things get to a point where only groups that seriously discourage or outright ban anything re LLMs are considered "legitimate". It's their prerogative of course but... lol.

[altairprime]

(There is no cabal.)