[dotcoma]

isn't Google going to win the race anyway ?

[throwaway85825]

In terms of personal assistant AI the monopolists have a massive advantage because they control the platforms and can box out competitors from deeply integrating with the OS.

[dotcoma]

I don't see it as merely boxing out competitors or integrating with the OS.

People have been going to Google for a quarter of a century, and I imagine they will continue to do so.

As far as I am concerned, I moved to DDG in 2013 and never looked back, but I find Google AI intriguing.

[conradkay]

That feels really hard to argue now that Anthropic/OpenAI are so much bigger

How the hell do you crush a ~1T company on the one thing they have all their focus on?

[SXX]

Data. Google has access to unphasmable amount of real human-created data with zero expectations of privacy (wink wink Apple): videos, photos, search, navigation, mobile app usage including competition platforms, emails, etc.

Both Anthropic and OpenAI only has access to whatever they can buy or steal.

And it's becoming increasingly hard to get fresh uncontaminated data for training. No amount of money can buy that.

[conradkay]

I suspect it's less true now that synthetic data has worked so well, and multimodal doesn't seem to transfer as well as many would've hoped

Claude Code and Codex are a big advantage, vs Gemini CLI which might be killedbygoogle soon? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48196867

> Both Anthropic and OpenAI only has access to whatever they can buy or steal. A trillion can buy you quite a lot! Like offer some company a ton of money for data, and if they say no simply buy said company. Bonus points if it's someone like Atlassian who's stock price is getting hammered largely because of you.

[dotcoma]

You start with a 90% share in search, I guess.

Me, not a SWE, I have never even tried Claude

(and I am not sure I prefer ChatGPT over Google)