[msandford]

Are you new to the club? I saw these problems you're talking about with Biden, Trump1, Obama and Bush Jr. Of course I'm not old enough to really know about what Clinton or Bush Sr or Reagan or anyone before that did.

I know it's super annoying to have someone rain on your "but THIS stuff is REALLY bad!" parade, but that the rulers are corrupt isn't new. It's just new to a lot of people.

[wookmaster]

You aren’t really raining on anyone’s parade it sounds like you’re just looking for attention

[gchamonlive]

So you think Trump2 is equivalent to all the presidents before?

[msandford]

I think this kind of corruption has been going on for a long time. Look at this case and how a Supreme Court decision didn't really get respected despite it being pretty clear. However bad you think any one thing Trump has done is, this is almost certainly as bad for the feeling of the rule of law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcester_v._Georgia

Just to be clear I'm not trying to say what's happening is good or right. Just that it's not new. And I used something really old to try and "prove" it's not a recent phenomena and help people maybe see past the recency bias.

[gchamonlive]

Yeah, you are wrong there, sorry to say, you missed this clear escalation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025