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by es15x 14 days ago
Joel_Mckay is responding to a glib comment that sugarcoats and trivializes the theft. Just like you do.

People need to be reminded of reality in their newspeak bubble.

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Re-stating an opinion does not somehow establish it as a fact. I'd welcome an effort to support what you're saying instead of just hand-waving this as some sort of self-evident fact of the universe.
Most of OpenAI CEO rhetoric doesn't hold up to even cursory reason.

"People talk about how much energy it takes to train an AI model - but it also takes a lot of energy to train a human. It takes about 20 years of life - and all the food you consume during that time - before you become smart." (Sam Altman)

Let us take a worst case upper favorable estimate of his flippant statement:

Adult Human peak power W: 600

Average U.S. home yearly kWh: 10500

20 Years = 7300 Days = 175200 Hours

Human_metabolic_kWh = 105120

Home_shelter_kWh = 210000

Total_20Y_Human_Life_kWh = 315120

US average electricity cost is @17.65¢/kWh, and according to sources the LLM models took “1.2 million kWh for older foundational models to upwards of 11 billion kWh for next-generation frontiers". So if true that means:

1200000 kWh = $211,800 USD

11000000000 kWh = $1,941,500,000 USD

In other metrics that means we know:

1200000 kWh trained LLM = 4 Human lives reallocated

11000000000 kWh trained LLM = 34907 Human lives reallocated

Sam claiming 34907 Human lives is a small price to pay for a 85% accurate nonsense machine is ridiculous hyperbolic nonsense, and or the data they are publishing is inaccurate.

People have a right to be displeased with the industry dismissing peoples concerns. =3

Why would people feed a sealion?