[ceejayoz]

> Earning…

Inheritance is, notably, not earning it.

> continue do productive work

That's a pretty bald assertion. Useless nepo babies abound.

> relying on public largesse

Any chance the existence of a stable, well-educated, high-trust society benefits the children of wealthy people at all?

[steveBK123]

Yes.. spend enough time amongst the inheritocracy and you'll see the wealth is as often as not wasted on them.

There's just too much fun to be had with 0.1% wealth that you didn't have to sacrifice your 20s, 30s (and maybe 40s) to build. Coast at some job with a top 25-50% income and 0.1% inheritance in NYC and live the life.

[SoftTalker]

So if you're spending your inheritance living the high life, that economic activity benefits a lot of other people. Still a net positive in my view.

I get the political power concern, and money = power at a certain point. But I'd rather work on getting money out of politics than putting limits on what people can decide will happen to their assets after they die.

[ElevenLathe]

I'm curious how you envision money ever leaving politics. I hear this phrase often and every time I do it feels more and more nonsensical. Politics is what we call the social aspect of resource management (it's often called "political economy" for this reason). The only way I can see to remove money from politics is to create a society that has no money at all. I assume that isn't what you mean?

[wat10000]

I'm sure it can't be removed entirely, but we could, for example, start imprisoning people who give or accept bribes.

[bdangubic]

We already do that.

- Bob Menendez (Senator)

- Randy Cunningham (Congressman)

- William J. Jefferson (Congressman)

- James Traficant (Congressman)

And a bunch more at more "local" level...

[selfhoster1312]

If we already did that, half of governemnt members across the globe would be in prison. And as much as i would enjoy to see all french politicians rot in jail, i don't think that's happening anytime soon.

[wat10000]

Anything recent? The practice seems to have fallen off in recent years.

[steveBK123]

Right it seems like one of those libertarian perfect-world talking points that ignores the impossibility of implementation.

There's so many indirect ways of influencing politics given lots of money - alternative media, buying out local news, controlling national news.. making entertainment media of your own ideology. Fund interesting groups around particular topics. Give poor Ivy League grads a job and groom them for higher office.. oh wait.

[steveBK123]

The problem is that theres a lot of stuff in the tax code that allows those at the higher end to also defer taxes indefinitely. So not taxing estates/inheritance, and allowing these deferrals leaves assets untaxed at the high end forever.

For example, step up basis allows inherited assets to have their cost basis re-struck at the value at time of inheritance. So if there is no inheritance tax, the assets transfer to a new owner and a large chunk of value is forever untaxed, even when/if they eventually sell.

Similarly all sorts of interesting stuff that can be done with trusts. Again stuff that's only accessible / worth the hassle to 1%.

In a world with extreme outcomes due to scaling, we might accidentally be re-inventing the hereditary aristocracy if the assets can accumulate outside the tax system.

[ceejayoz]

Sure, and rape helps the therapy industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

[kjshsh123]

Bastiat was opposed to inheritance taxes. He wrote about this in Economic Harmonies. I think he'd call the connection you're trying to make a stretch

[selfhoster1312]

Yes, the famous bourgeois economist Bastiat is certainly a reference in how to provide economic justice on this planet. /s

To be clear, i'm not exactly defending inheritance tax if resources are shared another way. For instance, it would make sense to let people keep a − modest − home across generations. But i'm tired of rich capitalist tech bros saying income taxes are unfair because they've worked so hard, and inheritance taxes are unfair because they've already been taxed.

[kjshsh123]

The person I replied to was referencing Bastiat's parable of the broken window.

[themaninthedark]

I think there a a long way to go between inheriting money and rape.

[ycdeebs]

> Useless nepo babies abound.

Useless non-nepo babies abound. Useless rich people abound. Useless poor people abound. And?