[newaccountman2]

> In what world is 1 million US not wealthy?

In the US itself (?) lol

I disagree with the comment and entire existence of the person to whom you are replying, but they aren't wrong about $1m actually not being as big or watershed a number as it used to be.

A basic middle-class house in just about any part of the country that's worth living in is going to be $1m, plus or minus 200k.

[jmye]

> A basic middle-class house in just about any part of the country that's worth living in is going to be $1m, plus or minus 200k.

Help me understand your comment. Do you think the country is only made up of like, 3 big coastal cities? Do you think the only houses worth living in are several thousand square feet in only the coolest parts of town? I want to understand what you think the country actually looks like, here.

[newaccountman2]

You quoted the part that clarifies this: "worth living in"

Subjective, obviously. My view is that I wouldn't live almost anywhere outside of one of the major coastal cities in a blue state. Certainly nowhere in "flyover country".

[happytoexplain]

Even disregarding the fact that your description here still doesn't meet the $1M bar you set in the original comment, you are using the general term "worth living in" to describe places you would live, which is way more elitist than is typical of HN.

I too would only live in a small subset of the country (a different, but not opposite, subset from you). But I would never do something as petty/hostile as describe those places as "the only places worth living."

[newaccountman2]

Zero sympathy. The people who live in those places routinely complain about unfairness to them, while then voting based on bigotry and ignorance, jubilating in ICE's cruelty, etc. They have done worse than simply issued harsh words, and they deserve worse in recompense.

> you are using the general term "worth living in" to describe places you would live,

In general, anyone who uses the phrase is going to mean it subjectively.

But--there is a somewhat objective measure: property prices :)

And they are all higher in blue state coastal cities than in buttfuck Trump-loving nowhere.

[happytoexplain]

"that's worth living" is doing some Herculean lifting there. I'm sorry to inform you that only the wealthy can live in the places you deem "worth living". You are not using the phrase "middle-class" correctly.

I'm not coming at this from a rural perspective. I live in the greater NYC area. I have friends in NYC. They make a lot of money and live very close to Grand Central, and even they don't live in $1M properties.

[newaccountman2]

I will generally concede to you, sure lol

I have lived in both NYC and Southern California, and I was mostly thinking about SoCal, where in general one assumes a basic middle-class house in a reasonably decent area is going to cost $1m. Do they always? Not necessarily, but even fairly modest houses like my parents house now exceed $1m in value easily.

Out of curiosity, do your friends own condos? Doesn't even a studio condo on the UES cost at least like $600k base (i.e. not counting any fees related to the sale, nor any ongoing HOA)?