[was8309]

I'm guessing the religious people at your neighborhood churches feel pretty strongly about the value of truth. How do they make that work with support for trump? I'm not trying to do a gotcha, I seriously can't see past the dissonance.

[bulbar]

Dividing people into "the left" and "the right" (or Republican / Democrat or whatever) as if it's over homogenous entity is very bad for any discourse. Not writing this as an answer here to address you specifically, it's done by virtually everybody.

When people say "the right did X" most likely the person they are discussing with didn't do X, but might (to some degree) identify with being part of what is meant by "the right". Same goes for "the left".

I live in Europe, so I don't have the deep knowledge and experience of people living in the US, but I have a more high level perspective instead.

To me, that partisan thinking is the biggest problem in the US, by far.

All above was originally written as an answer to Rick, but I figured here might be the better place for it, because I don't see an indication for past or present support of Trump. All he said was "I am a conservative voter" while vastly agreeing to the the critics of Trump. But because everything is "them or us" he is is one of "them" and therefore he is X and does Y and so on.

I believe if the US wants to survive, society needs to overcome that at least to some degree. Biden acknowledged that by using the term "Time to heal", at least that was my interpretation back then. Didn't work obviously, maybe he was the wrong person for the job or it wasn't time for it yet, idk.

[muwtyhg]

> I don't see an indication for past or present support of Trump. All he said was "I am a conservative voter" while vastly agreeing to the the critics of Trump.

Rick is one of the most prolific pro-Trump accounts on this site. He's jumped through so many hoops to excuse or ignore or what-about Trump's actions, there is no doubt in my mind he is a Trump voter, and would likely vote for him for a third term if possible. Just look at this current thread to see how often he minimizes the rampant abuse of power by Trump because he "moves the ball forward on conservative policy".

Do not let his acknowledgement of Trump's issues fool you. He is 100% onboard with what is happening in the current admin.

[bulbar]

I read through the comments when you wrote that and didn't find any indication of that.

Again, the US is in a desolate state regarding their culture when it comes to discussing politics.

[RickJWagner]

That is a great question. It’s curious to me, I bet it’s positively baffling to many on the left.

I see things Trump does that are not in alignment with my values, that’s true.

He does move the ball forward on some conservative positions, so there is reason to approve of him. But does one outweigh the other?

  I think he is a good showman.  ( Remember, before he was a Republican he hung out with Don King and hosted Saturday Night Live— twice! ) The man knows how to reach people through a camera.  He obviously shows enough appeal that he won the popular vote.  

It is curious, and I bet will be an interesting study for future generations of political science students.