[spacechild1]

I was specifically talking about needless token maxxing, though.

> How many of today's jet plane flights really needed to happen?

Many jet plane flights are indeed not necessary and there are people who deliberately avoid such unnecessary flights.

> The question is how much value people feel they're getting.

It is indeed a question we should keep asking and weight the answers against the energy footprint.

[dgellow]

Externalities should be priced in. We desperately need some form of carbon tax

[slfnflctd]

I mean, I agree, but good luck with that. Especially in the current environment.

We need to plan for the world we're most likely to be living in in addition to the one we want to live in but probably won't. The latter energy isn't entirely wasted, but it's also not as essential to our immediate survival.