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by Mashimo 22 days ago
The inside looks so freaking cool: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design

Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate.

The "LUNCH" mode button that you have to pull and then shows a glowing ring. Feels 90s science fiction. I wonder if I can 3D print a replica, not sure for what yet, but I want it. It's literally inspiring for me.

The outside though :(

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I think all cars should have a ‘LUNCH’ button.

It can be sponsored by Uber Eats and whenever you press it, it automatically orders a burger to your current GPS co-ordinates.

Americans when describing their ideal car interior: "Imagine a burger ordering button".
It sounds like it should be in that car Homer Simpson designed, although I guess it would order doughnuts in this case
Are we looking at the same interior? It is ugly as sin. Looks like a mockup render that is going to need ten more iterations to look good.
You can certainly see the modern Apple influence: 4 different instrument panels, 7 different corner radii.

The control panel is the odd one out at the moment, but perhaps in the next version they'll "upgrade" it to a lop-sided rhomircle instead. Maybe even find a way to make the seatbelt foul the accelerator pedal when in use, in homage to the Magic Mouse.

(moving) buttons for turn signals. ick.
If you want to discuss it, maybe explain it?

I like tactile knobs and switches. I can see my self enjoying using them, similar to a fidget toy. Or an earbuds case that you can close with a satisfying SNAP.

Look at the infotainment, you have the handle bar thing that you can feel and thus rest your hand vertically. But instead of just a row of flip switches, in the middle you have the depressed button and a wheel. All of this helps using it without taking your eyes of the road.

I don't have a way with words, but there is also something about the instruments cluster. Looks cool I guess. Reminds me of 80s / 90s Mercedes maybe? Shows everything without being too much.

What does something looking ugly have to do with it having buttons?

The interior looks like the car version of those "Xbox 720", "Gameboy Omega" meme renders from the late 2000s. It's just plain ugly.

Compare that to some of the beautiful devices Braun and Sony created in the past. Buttons don't prevent something from looking beautifully crafted. But ugly design does.

Thinking of it, you know who could design a beautiful Ferrari interior? Teenage Engineering. Look up the OB4 radio in red.

Heck yes, Teenage Engineering does indeed have some beautiful design. Same as Braun.

I looked up "Xbox 720" and can't see the resemblens to the Luces inside.

The type of buttons, how you use them, how they feel, is for me part of the design. And I like what I see :)

> I like tactile knobs and switches.

You're not the only one. Users have been screaming for tactile buttons for about a decade or more now. Mercedes recently switched to tactile buttons and more expected to follow.

But regarding this car, did you check where it says "CONTROL PANEL" in your link? It is still a flat screen ...

Anyway, none of this looks revolutionary to me. Whether you think it is aesthetically pleasing or not (I do not).

> "CONTROL PANEL" in your link? It is still a flat screen ...

Yes, it has 9 or so physical buttons. Those are the ones I talked about in the post you are replaying to. As long as you can most needed tasks by buttons I'm fine also having a touchscreen.

Just judging my the images it seems the climate On/Off is touchscreen only. Even though you can control temperature by buttons. Could be that you can enable / disable it via other means. (Double click climate or whatever)

> none of this looks revolutionary to me.

Yeah same. But then again I have no idea what was revolutionary in car dashboards. Maybe GPS navigation?

> The outside though :(

The exterior of basically all cars from Hyundai up to (now) Ferarri is currently stuck at some kind of aerodynamic / fuel efficiency local maximum that dictates that they all look like the same boring bar of soap. Nobody seems willing to budge on this and climb down the hill even a bit.

As problematic (quality-wise) as the Cybertruck is, at least they went full-send on the design. It might look ugly but at least they tried to not make it look like every other truck on the market.

> Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate.

Are we looking at the same images? The steering wheel (https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...) has a bunch of switches, yeah, but the Infotainment/climate (https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...) seems to be all touchscreen buttons on the huge iPad-like device in the middle? Like most modern cars, it looks incredibly difficult to use and outright dangerous.

Those aren't touch screen buttons. Clear in any non-frontal image of which there's plenty.
You're right, the image seemed to kind of hide this. Seems this "video" with some perspective change makes it a lot more clearer what's going on: https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/static/MXY2SL_Control_Panel_16...

Seems to still depend on some state that they show on the display, makes it seems like you still need to hit "invisible" buttons in the iPad UI to start setting the temperature with the hardware "lever", kind of defeating the purpose. But maybe again it's just the website/images/videos being unclear.

I guess there is probably some easy and "no look" way to go to some default state where you control temperature etc. If you start fiddling with songs etc it's been distracting since forever anyway, physical knobs or not. Fine-tuning the frequency knob to get rid of the noise was always distracting.
Yeah, climate on/off seems to be a touchscreen button.

Hopefully you can activate it by changing the temperature. Or maybe double pressing the "climate" physical button.