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by verst 22 days ago
I can easily create a 1 hour track in Ableton and have some minor variations every say 48 measures. It's basically just copy paste with some parameter variation which can be scripted.

So not everything like that is necessarily AI generated!
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bilekas 22 days ago
> I can easily create a 1 hour track in Ableton and have some minor variations every say 48 measures. It's basically just copy paste with some parameter variation which can be scripted.

What's the difference with AI doing it instead of your script ?

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anshorei 22 days ago
Is human-scripted art (e.g. https://nannou.cc/) art? Is music programmed to play on an orchestrion art? Is the music produced using a modular synth setup art?

If your answer to any of these questions is "yes", and your answer to "can AI create art" is no, then there is a difference between AI doing it and a script.

That said the discussion around "human" art and "AI" art often lacks nuance, and I believe there's lots of space to explore art that uses AI. Humans produce a lot of crappy art, this crappy art requires humans to invest time and effort. With AI it is possible for humans to produce lots of crappy art without investing time and effort, so an deluge of crappy AI art follows.

If I use AI to strip backgrounds instead of traditional greenscreen methods, is the end result "crappy AI art"? I'd hope no one sets those standards. I'd hope my videos would be judged as "crappy human art" since I still did the camera work the acting and the editing. If I use AI for visual effects in my video because I don't have visual effect training and don't have money to hire someone with experience (I don't make money from my occasional fun video projects), does that make it "crappy AI art"? I don't believe so. But somewhere between there and the content farm AI slop filling the Youtube servers there is a point where it becomes "crappy AI art" and I can't tell you where that point is because I'm still trying to figure it out.

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bilekas 22 days ago
Yeah, you make some good points, and it's an interesting question. There's far more nuance I guess that I considered, I guess what's a bit disheartening about the amount of generated music in this case is that it does make it harder for those who create and put really a lot of effort into their work to find some traction. Then again they said Spotify would ruin the music industry also, and to some degree it has only benefited a minority of artists.

I guess either way we will see. Art is only appreciated by those who appreciate it so who am I to judge.

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