[llbeansandrice]

Those flock cameras arrived in many places in the US bc people did not show up to public city council meetings to oppose them, aka “activism”.

[achierius]

In many cities they just bring it up again and again until it passes. They only need to win once, we need to win every time. That's the problem.

[llbeansandrice]

This is anticipatory obedience and it's actively harmful.

You are also wrong. Contracts, ordinances, and everything related to governance get rolled back or changed all the time. Especially at the local level.

If you have lost the initial battle you can do the same thing as them: you keep attacking their presence and you only need to win once to undo it.

[zx8080]

Are representatives that were elected deaf? Or dumb?

What is voting for then?

[jchw]

Locally over here our city councils are overran with people who are anti Flock. Flock's strategy is to sneak their way in as if it is an "emergency". They've got a whole playbook.

Normal activists don't stand a chance against well-funded adversaries.

[llbeansandrice]

This is just anticipatory obedience. Deciding that you've already lost before even trying is actively harmful, especially when paired with a lack of any other action.

If you don't believe in this system then start setting things on fire[0] I guess. Otherwise shut up, people are actually trying to fight it.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Kimberly-Clark_distributi...

[jchw]

Like I said, I still participate. I just have absolutely zero hope this will get solved peacefully.

Feel free to spread naivity, but do not tell me to shut up, that is an endeavor less useful than any activism.