[PearlRiver]

I am getting the feeling that Americans don't understand that words have meaning. Trump insulting, threatening and bullying everones is supposed to be one big joke.

But we are talking about sovereign states here that have been around for centuries- they are neither amused nor cowed.

[noir_lord]

They don’t seem to get that Trump while a huge problem for us is a symptom of the actual problem, which is “all the conditions that put Trump in the White House will still exist when Trump is no longer in the White House”.

Simply put, they did it twice, who’s to say Trump 2.0 won’t be worse.

This whole “Democrats will take the house and it’s back to normal” attitude they have when it applies to foreign politics is naïve, oh we’ll continue to trade and we may still buy some military stuff and so on but that’s simply because the US is so large and integrated that decoupling isn’t quick or entirely necessary/possible immediately.

The paths pretty clear at this point, it’s just early enough that it hasn’t become widely obvious that the existing world order since post WWII is gone.

[altacc]

I have heard at least one interview with Steve Bannon where he says that Trump isn't delivering what many political operatives and financiers want but they see him as laying the ground for the next administration, who will restructure the government & US more efficiently.

[kakacik]

As in behaving so badly changes will even be allowed? I wouldn't hold my breath for those in power to willingly give it back

[hylaride]

The idea is more "Trump wasn't the real deal, but trump 2.0 is...so vote for them."

You're already seeing this as some MAGA people split and even go so far as admitting they were duped, MTG in particular.