[shimman]

Is this a joke? Income inequality is at it's highest (even worse than the gilded age), deaths of despair are at their highest as well, people can't afford childcare (a years worth of childcare costs more than college), people are losing access to health insurance en masse; but we're suppose to think society is truly better off?

What brand of edibles do you have there 'bud? I'd like to fly into that realm of alternate reality for a bit.

Also when have any efficiencies gained by employers benefited workers? Being honest here because the only time workers have truly gained anything was due to solidarity between workers in the forms of strikes + workplace sabotage.

[zeroonetwothree]

When I was a kid “child care” was either your grandparents or the neighborhood kid watching 6 screaming toddlers at once.

I’m pretty sure that doesn’t cost more than college today :).

Our standards have just risen massively.

[jimbokun]

Many parents would probably love to have grandparents close enough and willing to watch the kids while they work.

[moduspol]

It sounds crazy now, but prior to the 1970s, sometimes even the mother might primarily provide the child care.

[account42]

Do you really think that dropping of your kids at a flu factory is a higher standard than having caring relatives (often even one of the parents themselves) available to give them a good childhood?

[dalyons]

We’re forced to move away from our grandparents and family neighborhood help to have careers to afford to live