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by pull_my_finger 18 days ago
I get why the government is keen to do this, but what sane citizen wants to live anywhere near those factories they want to bring back? Nothing like contaminated drinking water, poor air quality, acid rain that ruins your cars paint, noise and light pollution etc, etc, etc. Not to mention they'd surely be built with automation in mind to rug pull and wishful thinking about job creation. No thanks.
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Better than your kids having to move to China for upward mobility, which is the way we're currently headed.
> Better than your kids having to move to China for upward mobility, which is the way we're currently headed.

I see, we're currently headed in the direction of falling skies, imminent nuclear threats and various other nasty Godzillas which, of course, urgently require more sacrifice from the population for more "preventive" wars, both trade and kinetic, so that the value of assets concentrated in very few hands can grow faster.

It's really urgent, honest! These same hands benefited greatly from globalization, but now, on the way back, it's your turn to sacrifice for their continued benefit.

This seems to confirm one of the premises of Capital by Marx, as this only works while there is inequality in the global market.

As purchasing power in China grows, their labour costs grow because they start demanding similarly unpolluted environment, and dirty production will start moving to the next country.

Is it not the answer that you demand a clean production or stop using products which cannot guarantee it? The fact that consumers do not apply this logic means that NIMBY can only take you so far, because if we accept polluting production, some humans will have to deal with it somewhere.

> contaminated drinking water, poor air quality, acid rain that ruins your cars paint, noise and light pollution etc, etc,

Ah yes, who can forget everyone's experience at the Denver, Colorado zoo, a 10 minute drive (or 30-40 minute bike ride) from a massive oil refinery operating since the 1930s. Same with the Rocky Mountains, totally polluted and gross by the likes of factories like Coors. Definitely stay away from those places. Sundance Film Festival in Boulder, CO? With so many factories up there and everywhere around, what's going to get them first, Colorado's water, air, or rain?

Look up on the hillsides as you drive west on I70. See those yellowish piles of rock? Mine tailings leaching arsenic and all kinds of bad stuff. Take a tour of the Argo mill in Idaho Springs. They'll let you look at the rainbow colored water running out of that old mine. Rockies aren't totally polluted but it's not rosy either.
Pity the kids getting jobs in the ol' Argo Mill. Exactly what the article and OP are lamenting: trillions of dollars of investment in 1800s-era mining for gold, that rare earth metal vital to national security. No sane person would ever want to live in the Rockies.
That's something of a modern viewpoint. If you hike in the Rockies, you'll find that a lot of the bronze survey markers on top of mountains are stamped "Bureau of Reclamation". Mountainous regions weren't valued except for extractive purposes until recently. Why do you think Long's Peak and the Mummy Range were available to be converted to Rocky Mountain National Park in 1915?
The factory work doesn't pay as much as Nursing careers or Building Houses for carpenters, plumbers, roofers, etc.

I have a feeling factories will use H1B Visas to bring in immigrants to do the work and fire them as soon as the H1B Visa expires, and hire all new H1B Visa workers.

I don’t think factory worker is quite a covered specialty profession…