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by bigfudge 15 days ago
I think this is complacent. The rest of the world is actively seeking opportunities to decouple. The US is so embedded in defence ecosystems at the moment that is a delicate balance because we are all still dependent on US space and logistics capabilities. But Ukraine and Eastern Europe and building the foundation for conventional forces to be supplied without the US, and although it will take longer, Sweden France and Uk have the aerospace chops to reduce dependency on the US too.

We are unlikely to reach parity any time soon, if at all. But that isn’t needed for the goal to be worthwhile.

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"Reddit tier America bad geopolitics takes"

The US president threatened to take Greenland by force, that's a very real thing.

Mind you, it's one man, and not the nation or state, but he does have a lot of backers.

That's a very real concern.

> Mind you, it's one man, and not the nation or state, but he does have a lot of backers.

My 2ct:

He is the duly elected leader in a representative democracy. He speaks on behalf of all U.S. Americans, he acts on behalf of all U.S. Americans, and all U.S. Americans share the same responsibility for the actions of his government.

He isn't the only problem, though. It has now been proven that the U.S. Constitution is not worth the paper it is written on. In my opinion, that's the real concern. Trump will not be around for long. The U.S. Constitution, the U.S. Supreme Court, the people that allowed that to happen and the Republican Party will.

Edit:

At least the U.S. Constitution needs some amendments, and I don’t see that happening, but there may be some plans to amend it I’m not aware of.

Edit-2:

Of course, there will still be cooperation with the U.S. after Trump, but fundamentally, something is broken. We will not return to the pre-Trump state.

People outside the US understand that Trump is a temporary phenomenon. And there's no evidence that Trump has any interest in post-Trump politics, except insofar as it insulates him from repercussions.
I don't see how anyone can think Trump is a temporary phenomenon, it's been a decade since he got into politics and things have only gotten nastier. On the scale of a person's life, this is definitely not a temporary thing.
I see no evidence that Trumpism will survive Trump. To the extend that Trumpism exceeds the bounds of normal partisan politics, it's driven by a cult of personality. Once the personality is gone, the unique aspects of the movement dissipate.
> People outside the US understand that Trump is a temporary phenomenon

Oh god no. How wrong can you be.

The world is now well aware what the American people have voted for (twice!) and may well vote for again. We don't want that risk thanks.

Trump being a temporary phenomenon would be a more plausible claim if his presidency had been a single term.
Trump could be elected for a third term and it could still be a temporary phenomenon, because the movement fails to transfer beyond one individual's personality.
This is incredibly complacent. The Heritage foundation view of where the US is going has been thoroughly inserted into American public life by a thorough politicisation of all public agencies. It would take an equally dominant and ruthless force to cleanse what Trump has done. I don't see that happening. Your judiciary and corporate interests have a momentum that should not be underestimated.

Breaking things is much easier than making them. American democracy is going to take a long time to recover.

> People outside the US understand

I am outside the U.S.

> that Trump is a temporary phenomenon

It is not. The unlimited authority, the supreme court that goes along with it, the party that supports it all, and the citizenship that enables it in the first place will be there long after Trump is gone. It's not Trump pulling the trigger.

It's not Trump alone. There was the Tea-party before him and there will be fascists after him. We are not talking about the USA doing some shady things. We are talking about a country that gave up on shared values and norms, that kills people left and right without due process and that assaults countries without reason, all while threatening the next assault(s) and being openly racist.

What is complacent?