[tptacek]

No, the point is they are very different tools that produce very different outcomes. Your syllogism doesn't work.

[firesteelrain]

Claude et al have “skills” that are basically containers of tools. It’s not a huge leap to say that similar tools are in use within these containers or even same. We don’t know.

[tptacek]

Yes, we do.

[firesteelrain]

Getting alot of short line replies. Got any link to any documentation / traceability to that claim?

[tptacek]

I work in this field, have done work for some of the vendors we're discussing, and talk daily to security engineers working on these problems at these vendors. You are wrong.

[firesteelrain]

Well we aren’t going to get anywhere. I asked for evidence and didn’t receive any.

[tptacek]

Just so we're clear you're asking for evidence that Apple and Google... run fuzzers.