[murm]

I ate mushrooms 10 years ago and it made me realize how little humans really know about existence, despite how confidently some people assert that there's no god. I didn't directly communicate with god or anything, but in some way the experience broadened my mind to be less dismissive about the idea of a higher power.

[mrkeen]

The fact that the brain can trip should be taken as evidence that, when the supernatural happens, a better explanation is someone's brain is tripping, and the supernatural isn't actually happening.

[murm]

Yes, but couldn't you then apply the same materialistic approach also to pain for example and explain it away as just some brain activity? Yet people live as if the experience of pain is real and modify their behaviour to avoid it. No one thinks their own pain isn't real.

But also yes, psychotic people too feel like they are really being followed by CIA which an outside observer can recognize as a delusion.

But why should this even be either-or? Why couldn't it be that the brain is tripping and the supernatural is also happening? I think mushrooms probably can trigger the brain into a state that can happen other ways too (fasting, long meditations, experiences of supreme beauty, the overview effect, near-death experiences etc.) These brain states are probably what religions are on about and why they have even appeared in the first place.

My experience was that the brain state I was in was very unusual and made me more humbly appreciate more the mystery of all being and in that state disproving the existence of god through logical arguments seemed like such a silly human endeavour, as if a termite is trying to gnaw on a temple. Like, "Sure, go ahead?" (and I'm not bashing logic, I too rely on it every day)