[caymanjim]

Really tempted to sell mine. I have a 1TB OLED that I think I paid $649 for last year. It's a dumpsterfire* of a device and I hate it and never use it. Could easily sell it for more than I paid for it.

* Too big and heavy to hold without sitting and resting it on my lap, which is a horribly-unergonomic position with neck strain. Controls are widely-separated such that even with my giant sasquatch hands, it's hard to reach all the buttons. So many buttons on it that there's nowhere to hold it without accidentally pressing them (I accidentally turn it off every time I use it). Loud fan and hot air blowing out. Few games I like that work well without a keyboard and mouse. Even fewer that have readable text on the tiny screen. CPU/GPU too weak for many games. Almost no games targeting the platform so UX feels hacky. Honestly I don't know what the market for this is. I bought it to use in my RV and figured even if I didn't use it as a console, it'd be good connected to a proper monitor/keyboard/mouse, but a lot of titles don't work well under emulation, even after eliminating the hardware UX issues.

[dminik]

Ok, I have to ask. How do you accidentally turn it off? The power button is at the top and it's flush. It's not like you can hit it accidentally.

[caymanjim]

I hit it accidentally all the time. Any time I have to temporarily one-hand it with my right hand. The sides are rounded and smooth and there are buttons on the back and top of the side. The power button is very sensitive as well and doesn't require a hard press; it responds instantly.

[dminik]

Are we talking about the right button?

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0253/3664/3635/files/641_e...

You would have to go out of your way to grip it in a way you could press it. You don't need to move your hand to lift it, it's controller shape after all. Or you can grip it along the bottom edge. And even gripping the top edge I just can't find a way you could accidentally hit it. It's flush.

The only time I've accidentally turned it on/off is when I've been clawing it out of the carrying case.

Edit: Wait, are you gripping the bottom and top edge at the same time, over the screen? Why? It's huge.

[caymanjim]

Yes, top and bottom at the same time, from the back or front. I have giant hands and that's a comfortable grip for me. Anything else feels like it's going to slip and drop one-handed.

[matthewfcarlson]

I got an Xbox Ally X (with bazzite as Gabe intended) after enjoying the steam deck so much. I get it's not for everyone, but I wasn't playing games on my desktop due to life/kids/etc. The handheld is awesome for my personal case, I love casual games and use it on the couch/plane/bed. If you want a PC with a keyboard and mouse that works with everything, get a gaming laptop. If you want to pull out a game for 15 minutes, play, then hit sleep and come back later, a handheld is absolutely the best way to go.

[devilbunny]

> even with my giant sasquatch hands, it's hard to reach all the buttons

Did you find the OG Xbox "Duke" controller comfortable? I did. The Deck doesn't have the best layout IMO, but I don't have trouble reaching the buttons.

> readable text on the tiny screen

Definitely an issue, especially those over 40 - which, really, is sort of a major part of the expected market.

[caymanjim]

I've never touched an Xbox controller—or really any console controller since the early Nintendo days.

What I find to require contortion is maintaining a grip on the Deck while operating the front controls without simultaneously squeezing the paddles on the back or having such a loose grip that I risk dropping the thing. The paddles on the back are one of my biggest problems with the grip ergonomics in general.

[devilbunny]

> or really any console controller since the early Nintendo days

Well, that alone could explain it. Lots more buttons and you have to find a comfortable grip that doesn’t hit them.

I always have trouble with controllers that have push-to-click-and-it’s-a-different-input joysticks. Too easy to do accidentally. But with the Deck you can reassign pretty much anything, so set them to do nothing.

[WolfeReader]

Instead of a tiresome rebuttal of all your hyperbolic, insincere points, I'll just encourage you to go ahead and sell your Deck. Get it into the hands of someone who will appreciate it.