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by tiffanyh 16 days ago
Why go through the effort when such work has already been done?

https://www.datacentermap.com/datacenters/

Not being negative. But isn’t there existing highly reliable data that already exists for this?

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The page mentioned in the article seems to focus on "AI Data Centers". Looks like it's a much smaller set of hyperscale stuff, not every telco building with a bunch of racks.

However, "user reports" on that map clearly conflate the two, also reporting small, established sites in urban areas, etc.

Erin Brockovich is popular enough that it justifies duplicacy of efforts, amount of visibility her name will brings in much more value than cost of building it.
People opposed to data centres remind me of people opposed to mask wearing.

Both are attempting to dismiss something useful and important, over trivial and manageable issues, mostly for culture war reasons rather than rational reasons.

Haha, what?

Data centers are loud, raise energy prices for everyone around them, and use drinking water in tremendous quantities.

This isn’t a culture war, this is a class war.

Edit: you might be a bot. No comments in the last 47 days, then a string of hard-pro data center comments in the last week.

This is about " major AI-focused and hyperscale data centers running AI workloads". Not any random one.

It also accepts user reporting of new developments, breaks them down in several categories (tracking proposed, operational, under construction, etc).

And eventually it can also track more information about them, specific to their cases (amount of water and energy used, pollution reports, etc). E.g. it has information like "1.2 GW AI factory broke ground May 12, 2026 at Eastgate Commerce Center (Little Blue Pkwy & MO-78). 400 acres, up to 10 buildings. ~1,200 construction jobs / ~130 full-time. Multi-billion-dollar investment; $150bn taxable industrial development revenue bonds secured." for some.

This map is inaccurate, for at least one major FAANG player. General metro area seems to be good but actual physical location is way wrong, not even the campus is right
Yeah even the very large DC I worked at 20 years ago still isn't listed, and it's still operating.
Giving equal weight to real data centers and 1000sqft telco switches on this map is sort of misleading.
Neither have much impact on the local area so equal weight makes sense
Living downwind of Colossus I and Colossus II in Memphis has orders of magnitude more weight than even a convention large data center. On par with a large cargo airport like MEM (FedEx hub).
What does “has more weight” mean in this context?
Impact and externalities.
Such as
To document the impacts and organize people against the harms.
DCR is a business. The datacentermap.com website is a way to promote their services

Brockovich is an environmental activist. Her project uses the public as a source of data for the map ("community reports")

DCR does not

I mean, why was OpenStreetMap created?
That is a good question. The existing data center map above is commercial so creating a free version with a clear goal seems to align with why OSM was started. The social aspect of OpenStreetMap was more important than the technical part.
It puts a number greater than 4,000 in the middle of the US. Maybe that’s reliable, maybe it’s accurate, but it’s certainly not useful.
You can click on that to see more detail :)
I guess it’s just not designed for mobile. Tapping didn’t reveal anything.
It works well on Android. Just zoom in and click the number, and you can breakdown per state. Click on any state number and it breaks down per city.

Pretty functional design.

I had to click the blue number twice to get it to open on iOS, though I was also confused at first.
you click on that number to drill down into more and more granular information
At least 3 amazon AWS locations are missing in Sweden... This just from checking my own town.

EDIT: NO! Wth is this map? I have to click to expand the clusters. Ah well, all is good.