[throawayonthe]

interesting/funny: their off-peak rates apply 00:00-08:00 Beijing time, so nine-to-five for someone on the NA west coast :p

[dubcanada]

China has a population of 1.4B, US is 349M. 0-8 Beijing time is their off-peak? How is that funny, that's literally how timezones work?

[bel8]

It's funny, in a good way, because their off-peak times match perfectly the werstern peak demand.

[ericmay]

Can folks in China run US-based models? Seems like they should take advantage of this overlap in peak timing.

[culi]

OpenAI and Anthropic restricted API access for developers based in mainland China, citing geopolitical competition and national security risks.

[ericmay]

Yes but does China also restrict Chinese citizens from using these models?

[shanoaice]

Kinda, China has the GFW so you need to circument that to access a larger part of global internet. Though that is relatively "easy" than to get a proper working SMS or KYC for Anthropic or OAI.

[linzhangrun]

Yes, use VPN; they are the main clients

[ericmay]

Why do they use a VPN?

[esseph]

Chinese state firewall?