[tptacek]

You can just say "fuck you". You don't have to do this kind of violence to the concept of civility. "Fuck you" is what this kind of populism inevitably devolves to anyways. Skip the middle steps!

[CPLX]

If having your values questioned sounds like "fuck you" then that's on you.

What I actually said is perhaps you should think about the people who end up worse off under the system you advocate for.

Your call of course but this is definitely not violence.

Violence is what happens when attempting to work through civic institutions and discourse has failed so many times that people no longer try this approach.

[tptacek]

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm not worried about actual violence. That's OK, we can be done.

[CPLX]

> I'm not worried about actual violence.

Right. That’s something I’ve found that those of us in the modern ruling class tend to have in common.

Perhaps we should be. It’s the most common outcome of this degree of inequality and disenfranchisement.

Or maybe we’ll get lucky and this will be history’s one exception to the rule.