[microtonal]

All I care about is packrat and good syncing.

For me that and end-to-end encryption (I know it's supported for teams now).

Instead they just added more annoyances over time. Every time I logged into the web interface, I would get stupid upselling advertisements (maybe don't badger your paying users with that nonsense)? I replaced the official client by Maestral years ago, because they switched to embedding a web browser, and the AFAIR the client was also trying to do upsells.

My wife were and I were customers for years. But we finally decided to terminate our subscription last year. Mostly because of the constant upgrade nagging + the orange guy taking office and Dropbox not providing E2E encryption on family accounts. So we switched to Proton Drive. It's worse in many ways, but at least it's E2E encrypted and doesn't shove upgrading ads in our faces all the time.

It's sad, Dropbox was really a great product.

[plasticsoprano]

E2E is supported for specific types of folders available only to teams but the admin has to enable it and that folder has to be used. You can't apply it team wide to all users. It's a very poor implementation.

[insanitybit]

If you want E2E, encrypt your data yourself. By far the simplest, safest solution to the problem.

[runtime_terror]

Simplest? How so

[insanitybit]

Using `age` or `rage` is deadly easy. Also, e2e is most effective when it happens out of band - if the idea is "I don't trust Dropbox, so I want client side encryption" then you shouldn't trust them to do the e2e anyways. I realize it can be more complex, but managing it yourself gives you the maximal benefits of e2e.

[runtime_terror]

I agree if you care about security it's better to DIY, it's just not simpler than say putting a file in Proton Drive

[insanitybit]

It's not just "better", it's the only approach that addresses the real threat model. So you can go with something simpler like checking a box but then you aren't getting the same feature.

FWIW this is the reason, to my understanding, that Dropbox has always been reluctant to support this feature - because if you actually want E2E you probably want it out of band.

[rcbdev]

Why not just use VeraCrypt containers with DropBox until this man of colour that you are scared of leaves their elected office? That way, your files are E2E encrypted via FOSS tooling.