[em-bee]

I didn't see them say anything about dignity

actually, i did, and i stand by it. working with a system that makes you angry is undignified.

it's a reference to a quote that i can't find the source for which roughly goes like this: *why i use linux and not windows? i could also rob banks and ..., but you have to keep a certain amount of dignity". the original of that quote was in german.

[streetfighter64]

I'll say, I quite hope the AI comes for your job so you'll have a chance to experience one of those "undignified" jobs you look down on so much.

[em-bee]

you have no idea. as a software developer the job market is already very bad, so your wish is already reality.

but i don't see any undignified jobs as alternative here either. what should that be?

taxi/bus driver? food delivery? sweeping streets? work as a plumber (apparently they are in demand in western countries)? i can't see anything undignified about that. even cleaning toilets isn't undignified. it has to be done.

maybe it can be argued that working as a prostitute is undignified. at least if it is not done voluntary. and of course bad working conditions are undignified.

but again, all of these jobs can be structured such that they don't cause stress and that they can be done with dignity.

so what really is an undignified job?

there is only one more category of undignified work that just came to mind: jobs where i am contributing to the exploitation of others. i once worked in a software company that had a customer that was running a sportsbetting website. in itself the work was not undignified, we used linux, and all the good software practices, but contributing to a gambling website just felt wrong.

people also consider the exploitation of users done by meta/facebook, google etc, as undignified. but those jobs have the same problem with dignity that using windows has, so i don't think they are what you have in mind.