[xbmcuser]

Its not like the non frontier are not improving. If someone can use deepseek to get 90% of the work done for $100 then pay another $100 to anthropic or openai to complete it I think they will rather do that than pay anthropic or openai for $1000.

[jonfromsf]

Yes, for indie developers and small startups. Large corps won't want their code /email/etc data being looked at by the Chinese government.

[LUmBULtERA]

For Deepseek and other openweight models, you can use non-Chinese hosted infrastructure that offer zero data retention and still save a whole lot of money. A large corp could even host their own Deepseek v4.0 Flash model internally for some basic work.