[hananova]

The limit to job loss is completely unrelated to AI capabilities. Rather it is social.

There is a breaking point where if enough people end up jobless it will lead to genuine bloody uprisings. I won't pretend to know where exactly that point is, but I am more than happy to state that it is before "nobody has a job anymore" is reached.

[lithocarpus]

I'm sure someone is thinking that job loss needs to be gradual enough that they can get technology to the point of having killer drones ready to take out any individual instantly, before any uprising threshold is crossed. If the abundance of drones keeps rising and surveillance continues toward "total", then we are headed toward this possibility.

Who wants to uprise if it means instant death for the uprisers and everyone they care about?

And if things move gradually enough we are like frogs in boiling water. Think about how if many of the things openly happening today were to happen 50-100 years ago how much resistance there would have been.

[hananova]

The thing about the whole “frogs in boiling water” thing is that it doesn’t work. They’ll jump when it gets too hot.

To counter it with another idiom, consider the concept of having nothing to lose. Remember I’m not claiming it’ll be fun, easy, or anything like that. What I’m saying is that when push comes to shove and enough people genuinely have nothing to lose, it will not be pretty, and I’m not willing to bet on the rich and powerful coming out on top, regardless of how slowly and gradually they try to make it happen.

I think it’ll suck a lot for everyone, and specifically I’d be willing to put money on the rich and powerful wishing they’d had a little more empathy and foresight.

[stevenicr]

I was thinking this months ago and asked AI what would be done.

IT quickly spit out a half dozen things it expected to be issues and the counter measures that would be deployed instantly and likely proactively.

It showed me videos of things like these 24/7 drones for people detected and less lethal things like soundwaves as deterrents.

It showed me videos of cables hardening and other systems being used to prevent cutting cables and stealing electricity.

Discussed the size of the jails that will be built, an expected number of people that move into a few groups of cybercrime (and which would continue to thrive with that) -

Had numbers of number of people that will be eating mealworms for lunch, the political and cult shifts that will occur, all sorts of interesting things.

I'll be putting out a movie about all this that AI already knows and expects to happen. And this is all with currently known and in use technologies.

Millions will be leaving many cities, and direct to needy from farms systems may keep people alive. Office buildings being converted to mealworm and similar farming may happen.

I do not see the millions of people who make a living via call centers to be able to find similar paying jobs. Most of them, and the people who currently make a living supporting them (sandwich shops, cleaning, etc) - will be competing for delivery jobs, which will depress wages, and they will be competing with robots and x-tunnels, etc.

I need to get a working title for all this info I gathered and come back and edit.

[allturtles]

That's what the robots with guns will be for.