[_carbyau_]

> p.s. Car ethusiasts suck and nobody should listen to them. All they want is v8 manual from 80s with all the "character"

I was generally with you until those lines.

Car enthusiasts are as varied as cars themselves. Whether it's F1 lovers or the V8 manual lovers (an experience to appreciate but I didn't care to own), the MX5(Miata) lovers, the offroad lovers or the lovers of classics like VW Beetles and Mini's or more esoteric cars.

There are dreamers who read the latest car magazine and fantasize about the latest Porsche, Ferrari or Mercedes S class.

Everyone has an opinion and unsurprisingly electric vehicles are a hot topic right now. You will get a range of both rational and emotional responses, depending on whom you speak to.

To derisively state "they suck and nobody should listen to them" is unreasonable.

[dzhiurgis]

I mean I had to be a bit abrasive here to get attention and also you kinda confirmed my thesis - car enthusiasts obsess about everything except day-to-day driving, aka what every normal person has to live with every day.

[_carbyau_]

But they obsess over day-to-day driving too!

The issue is that "car enthusiasts" cover a broad range of people. And most of them live in the real world.

When they come to the once-in-fifteen-years time of replacing their daily driver car, do you really think they don't go over their options and check the details?