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by Ajedi32 30 days ago
GP is saying E2E encryption implies encryption in transit, because by definition "in transit" is not an "end".

I would agree with your definition that E2E means "operational intermediates cannot read it", but I would define intermediaries as people/organizations, not as devices. If my phone can read my data from my ring, that's not an intermediary because it's my phone. If a cloud server can read the data, then that is an intermediary because it's not my cloud server.