[Akronymus]

From the HN guidelines:

> Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents, and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [e-mail] and we'll look at the data.

[king_geedorah]

There is no insinuation. The astroturfing objectively occurs and that it does so is an inherent strain on the credibility of engagement like that of the GP.

[Akronymus]

To me, it read like you implied the poster to be an astroturfing account. Though I may have misinterpreted that.

[john_strinlai]

they are 100% implying the poster is astroturfing,

easier to accuse someone of astroturfing than accept that different people can have different opinions. especially an opinion as world-shaking as not minding ai overviews.

this sort of accusation is becoming pretty common, and eventually going to ensure that the only new users actually are bots, because any potentially new humans that want to sign up are going to get fed up with the llm/astroturfing accusations.

[king_geedorah]

What you infer from reading the text is your problem, not mine. My follow up comment articulates exactly my position.

[john_strinlai]

"This opinion would hold much more weight if it weren’t coming from an account created literal days ago in an age where LLM-enabled astroturfing "

that is basically a direct accusation of astroturfing, man. no weaseling your way out of it. you're saying their opinion does not hold weight because it is likely to be llm-enabled astroturfing. there is no other interpretation.

if you're gonna break the rules and accuse someone of something, at least stand by it. wet-noodle accusations are even worse.

(p.s., sort of funny to see someone with a post-llm account accuse other post-llm accounts of being an llm!)

[king_geedorah]

If I give you a piece of titanium and tell you a piece of lead with equivalent volume would have greater mass I have in no way said the density of titanium is zero.

[arkadiytehgraet]

There is plenty of unfounded AI-hype astroturfing going on in HN that each instance absolutely deserves to be called out. This guideline is somewhat antiquated for the LLM era. Reporting posts and accounts spitting out blatant LLM-slop does nothing, by the way.