[timpera]

Brave Search has its own index which is fine, 10 blue links and no forced AI, and more importantly support for DDG-like "bangs" (like !gi sending you to Google Images), without DDG's performance issues. I highly recommend it for people who don't want to pay for Kagi.

[kgwxd]

Brave is such a horrible brand. I don't think they'll succeed, but they're definitely trying to do MS-style EEE. Browser, search engine, and security (nefariously called "ad blockers" by the people that don't want users fully controlling traffic and code that reached and runs on their machines) should forever be separate entities.

[someguyornotidk]

I've been using Brave for years and have no complaints. Their browser's security is better than Google Chrome thanks to them disabling a lot of the stuff that Google ships and keeping their own stuff disabled unless I opt in. Brave browser is private by default (unlike Firefox)[1], and it doesn't try to force me to accept an EULA or terms of service just to use it.

Their search engine isn't the best but none of the search engines I use are, not even Google.

So to me, they've already succeeded. Can you elaborate on the issues that make you think they haven't?

[1]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-brow...

[fooker]

Brave's MITM for ads (supposedly) after client side decryption has killed the brand for me.

They seem to have walked back some of this, but it seems pretty unclear what and why, and I'd rather not try to find out given there's nothing stopping them from doing such things.