[halJordan]

Of this comment and the its parent, this is the comment hurting America. It's unrepentantly belligerent and sarcastic without actually trying prove its contrarian view. You could have at least provided the 2025/6 statistics you claim disprove something. But instead you just levy an insult. All in all, F for effort in being a productive member of society

[croon]

I struggle with this daily. If two comments state the opposite, and one is "constructive" in framing, and one is antagonistic, I agree it's easier to carry the conversation with the former. But if the latter is the factually correct one, I'm not sure it's the one "hurting America", at least comparatively. This is an assumption made by me in service of the hypothetical.

In general, I think debates (the school competition kind/internet spectacle kind) focuses entirely to much on perception, and very little on content, in that whoever wins is completely disjoint from who if any is actually right. Though I suppose it's easier to police/moderate the presentation than the veracity.

TL;DR: I agree with you in general, all else being equal, but that's not always the case.

[Arodex]

What is hurting America is bad faith and bullshit. Not "belligerence" nor sarcasm.

This constant appeal to civility only serves to stamp down any discussion. One side is doing ugly things, but the other is put down the second they dare use a bad word or are even slightly snarky.

The parent comment is lying and manipulating his ass off - of course he is, why would he willingly mention statistics from 2024 when we are in 2026? He did it on purpose; but you find offense in my comment because I dare point it out in a not-kind-enough way. Not even unkind nor insulting: not kind enough. I am even called "contrarian". Words stopped meaning anything, apparently.

[akramachamarei]

Please see my response above. Your presumption of malice is... quite odd, and frankly somewhat lazy.