[kvgr]

I think at least 60% companies that use Jira could do better with just Trello. I dont know how it is possible to create such a horrible mess with task manager and some reports. But it probably keeps the managers and POs bussy so :D

[taikahessu]

I'm sure Atlassian knows this as well. When you setup a basic Kanban board in Jira, it is basically a Trello board. It is offered as one of the default options.

I was actually surprised they offered such simple options. Of course the complexity is there, the moment you start wanting an extra column, you're in the rabbit hole.

[kvgr]

Yes but it never ends there. Jira mess grows with middle managers trying to suck some kind of reports out of tasks. And trying to manage everything in it. 20 ticket states, 15 bug types and using epics for wrong reasons, every board setup differently. Moving between teams is hell. It is intergalactic spaceship when all you need to is go to have a smooth car ride.

[onion2k]

This is true because Trello uses simplicity as a constraint, so users can't make quite as big a mess. They can still make a mess though and as a source of truth it still requires people to move things properly, so it isn't really any better. All project tracking applications suffer from the same ultimate root cause of problems: users.

[viceconsole]

Probably true, but Trello just had a major multi-day outage that prevented commenting on or moving cards, so I would be hard pressed to recommended it to anyone at this point.