[mgrandl]

I am at a pretty good (for european standards) startup, entirely bootstrapped with no investor money. We use virtually 0 SaaS ourselves with the exception of tailscale. The pay $40/user/month pricing seems insane for what most of these things do and they are almost always trivial to selfhost. Of course if you have millions of investor money to waste, it’s a drop in the bucket.

[d1ss0nanz]

Same. And even for Tailscale we use a European alternative (Xplicittrust), because this aggressive growth of VC backed American tech is a real turn-off. We have seen where that leads often enough by now.

[uxcolumbo]

A bit turned off by their 'contact us for pricing' line.

Why not show your pricing like any other provider does?

[d1ss0nanz]

They only sell indirectly. Common concept in Europe.