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by bananamogul 18 days ago
"For instance, the TSA continues to publicly insist that ID (especially "Real" ID) is required to fly within the U.S., but it's not."

Explain, please, because you seem to be implying that someone can board a plane from New York to LA without being legally required to show any identification.

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I lost my ID once around 15 years ago and was able to board my return flight just fine. I had to get to the airport early because I -- correctly -- expected a longer, personalized security check, but I was on my flight on time, as expected.

Yes, things have changed in that time with regard to the zealousness of the TSA, but the laws and regulations behind them have not.

My friend drunk drove and crashed, the cop —correctly— gave him a long talk about how that’s a bad call, then let him off. Does that mean drunk driving is now legal?
You have the right to travel without ID in the U.S. The TSA may demand it, and may tell you it's legally required, but that doesn't make it true.

"In fact, the TSA does not require, and the law does not authorize the TSA to require, that would-be travelers show any identity documents. According to longstanding practice, people who do not show any identity documents travel by air every day – typically after being required to complete and sign the current version of TSA Form 415 and answer questions about what information is contained in the file about them obtained by the TSA from data broker Accurint…."

https://papersplease.org/wp/2020/05/19/tsa-tries-again-to-im...

https://papersplease.org/wp/2024/03/18/buses-trains-and-us-d...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_movement_under_Unit...

ezpz

If you tell the TSA you’re a sovereign citizen for 15 minutes they’re legally required to let you fly.