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by userbinator 19 days ago
WTF, Intel? This is reminding me of a very similar bug from 9 years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14630183

Clearly Intel needs to do far more extensive regression-testing, with things like demoscene productions --- especially the extremely size-optimised ones that can exercise the edge-cases much better than the usual "compiler slop".
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hsbauauvhabzb 19 days ago
Intel knowingly sold defective cpus and denied the defect until reports hit critical mass. I don’t think they care.
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userbinator 19 days ago
"knowingly" is meaningless, as otherwise they wouldn't even bother releasing errata lists; it's more likely that they underestimated the severity or their planned obsolescence calculations happened to be more statistically favourable than reality.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41041855

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close04 19 days ago
> "knowingly" is meaningless

You’re intentionally muddying the waters with meaningless philosophy. Even the law makes the difference between “knowingly” (with knowledge, intention, premeditation) and “mistake”. They didn’t knowingly break the CPU but they knowingly launched it despite their own internal findings, and knowingly blamed others when this came out.

But here you are claiming that the company must deserve the benefit of the doubt on their intent.

No, “knowingly” is most definitely not “meaningless”. And anyone who’s not naive or bad intentioned should make that difference and take note. Every time a company gets away with it because an army of philosophers washes away any guilt or plays it down with meaningless distinctions it becomes one more reason to do it again. Knowingly.

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moffkalast 19 days ago
Yes let's give a 50 billion dollar corporation flooded with MBAs the benefit of the doubt lmao. If GamersNexus can be believed, it was extremely deliberate to try and sweep it all under the rug.

I don't think they've clarified which exact models of which serial number ranges are affected with oxidation to this day. It should've been a recall.

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hsbauauvhabzb 19 days ago
The link you provided doesn’t match your comment, one of the comments in that thread points out that Intel blamed motherboards during the early stages.
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