[otterdude]

The core tenant of the paper is that roughness reduces drag IN the transition zone. A very small region of the total flow.

Thats the region between laminar and turbulent flow. Laminar flow is typically 5x less drag than turbulent, and will be encountered about a Reynolds number of 500K-1M (ratio of inertial flow to viscous flow).

Surfboards will have a Reynolds number of 10^7 which is entirely turbulent.

A Cessna aircraft will have a Reynolds number of 1-5x10^6.

[mike_hock]

> core tenant

And Lady Mondegreen.

[bonsai_spool]

Tenet is the word you mean

[dsr_]

And grit, not grid.

[nnevatie]

swoosh swoosh - that's the sound of things traversing backward in time.

[taylorius]

I think you mean hsoows hsoows

[Maarten88]

> Surfboards will have a Reynolds number of 10^7 which is entirely turbulent.

A fin, foil or daggerboard below the board/boat is operating well within the range of Reynolds' numbers where laminar flow is relevant.

[otterdude]

The vertical stabilizing surface of these elements is really insignificant to the entire surface of a board. Combining drag coefficients is done with the wetted surface area.

In truth there's some contamination from the upstream flow. Stabilizing elements are behind the center of pressure, so they will see the most "diry flow"

[Maarten88]

You are thinking about a slow boat in displacement mode, or a wave-surf board with very small fins. But I can tell you that the wetted surface area of my wing-foil board is exactly zero after takeoff, and all wet surfaces of the foil are, for a significant percentage, in laminar flow. Same for a windsurf board planing: just the last 50cm of the board is touching the water and the fin is extremely significant for drag.

[lymbo]

I have 2 foil drives for wake thieving and a SUP for downwinding and I’m just excited that someone on HN is talking about foiling. Such an underrated sport.