[alterom]

>I essentially owe my career to two great strokes of luck.

>The first was that my father purchased a PC in the early 1990s

>The second was attending a high school with a reasonably well funded computer lab

So, you essentially own your career to your parents being well-off and tech inclined.

It's not like you ended up in that high school by accident.

Sure, being born in such a family is a stroke of luck that many people don't get to have.

I did; my mom was a software engineer in the USSR, and I grew up in the 1990s Ukraine with a PC at home, and went to a great high school in Odesa, and later, in Brooklyn when we immigrated.

Like @susam, I played Digger on IBM PC 286 as my first game when I was 4.

I have a PhD in math and Google/Meta/MS on my resume today.

I owe this to many strokes of luck, but how tinkerable the PCs were was not the most significant one by far.

The most important part was access to production tech, seeing it used, and having a role model that made it a natural consideration as a career choice.

And the "luck" of what was available in my K12 was 100% the work of my parents who got me into those schools.

Credit where credit is due, dude.

[safety1st]

My parents were broke. I grew up on food stamps. Mom worked retail. Dad had a few good years, his business went bust and we spent a decade below the poverty line.

It was a public high school in the USA. It was in a rich neighborhood on the other side of town; our neighborhood was below median income and had one of the worst high schools in the state. My parents encouraged me to apply for attendance at the school across town via a magnet program. I got in and took a public bus 80 minutes each way for 4 years.

I'm not relating this in order to validate precisely what my Privilege Index was. Rather to relate how public investment in resources which were available to anyone who was willing to make a bit of extra effort transformed at least one kid's life. It seems these days that public resources go mostly to those with the most money, or maybe those who were born into the politically correct group du jour, but almost never to the random kid who just wants to take a shot at doing something bigger.

I'm glad I was born when I was. Public policy has changed, that magnet program is now gone, that rich kid school is now for the rich kids only, and it has gone to the dogs in terms of academic performance.

[alterom]

>My parents were broke. I grew up on food stamps

I grew up in a communal flat in post-collapse Ukraine with 5 families to 1 toilet, and then on food stamps when we immigrated to the US. I went to a public high school, and state colleges.

Your point about public investment in resources which were available to anyone who was willing to make a bit of extra effort notwithstanding, many kids from the very same school(s) didn't do so well, and it was far less about "willing to make a bit of extra effort".

>Public policy has changed, that magnet program is now gone, that rich kid school is now for the rich kids only, and it has gone to the dogs in terms of academic performance.

That, sadly, applies to my high school in Brooklyn too (E.R. Murrow High School). It's not at all what it used to be.

> It seems these days that public resources go mostly to those with the most money, or maybe those who were born into the politically correct group du jour, but almost never to the random kid who just wants to take a shot at doing something bigger.

BIGOTRY ALARM BELL

Yeah right. The kids get the resources today because they belonged to a "politically correct group du jour", unlike you, who was merely "willing to make a bit of extra effort".

And also, you know, had a personal computer at home in the 1990s, and lived in a neighborhood with a high school mostly for rich kids.

Uh huh.

>I'm not relating this in order to validate precisely what my Privilege Index was

That much is clear, which is why I'm pointing your attention to it.

Describing yourself as "the random kid who just wants to take a shot at doing something bigger", as opposed to "those who were born into the politically correct group du jour" was absolutely uncalled for.

[alterom]

Small correction.

Instead of "lived in a neighborhood with a high school mostly for rich kids", the line should say "had parents that not only let you tinker with their very expensive machine, but also encouraged you to apply to well-funded magnet schools".

My point - that you owe your success to growing up in that household to a larger extent than other "quirks of chance" - still stands.

[youngNed]

Ok, just waiting on some Indian lad whose parents didn't work for ussr state software engineering to chime in, and put this guy in his place, and i can write my post-post-python class decontruction.

[alterom]

>Ok, just waiting on some Indian lad whose parents didn't work for ussr state software engineering to chime in, and put this guy in his place, and i can write my post-post-python class decontruction.

Not sure what you're talking about, and who needs to be put in their place, and why you'd want an Indian to chime in, but OK.

My point was that when it comes to careet, the parent commentor owes a lot more to their parents than strokes of luck and how tinkerable computers were back in the day.

They did attribute their success to luck though, instead of going for the usual self-made-man myth, so I don't know what place they need to be put in either.

[elektronika]

Americans like to downplay the impact of the situation of their birth in their successes and others' failures.