[bwfan123]

> Hats off to the deekseek team for creating a great product

I have been using it for a while, and I wholeheartedly agree. imo, it is as good as codex or claude which I also use. It is a winner in the cost-sensitive tier, and if some startup could put it together with data-retention in mind, it could be a great product sold to the enterprise, as data-retention and privacy are the main issues for the coding-assistant usecase.

[chillfox]

Deepseek v4 pro is definitely my preferred cheap model, it's very good, and I use it all the time for my personal projects (opencode go plan), but I also use Claude Opus all the time at work and Deepseek is not as good as that, but it does compete with Sonnet for capability, and beats it on price.

[pjerem]

I have unlimited Claude Opus at work and it’s wonderful. Not allozwed to use it for personal use though.

So I use Deepseek Pro on the $20 Ollama Cloud plan and it’s really not that far behind and I never triggered the plan’s limits.

It’s like 10-15% less powerful but costs 10 times less.

Totally worth it. I prefer Opus because my employer pays for it but I would personally never pay 10 times more for it.

[chillfox]

Nice,

I have got unlimited Claude Opus at work as well.

I was really having a hard time deciding between the Ollama and OpenCode plans for personal use, I couldn't really understand how much usage I would get with the Ollama plan, so in the end I went with OpenCode and I have never hit the limits despite using it most evenings and weekends for several hours.

[abustamam]

What models do you use in open code? I too have unlimited opus at work and I tried using my same workflow from work using Kimi 2.6 in open code and... It's just not it, even for relatively simple stuff.

Maybe I should try DS4p?

[chillfox]

I use DeepSeek v4 Pro, at max thinking. It's comparable to Sonnet 4.6 on high thinking.

[spaceman_2020]

I genuinely don’t think you need Opus 4.7/GPT-5.5 tier models for 95% of tasks in a normal workplace

People are out there using frontier intelligence to make responsive headers and weekly work reports. Absolutely don’t need the latest and greatest models for this stuff

[HDBaseT]

Deepseek V4 Pro is an amazing model, even without the unreal cost factored in.

It is my default model at the moment. I'm not doing anything too complex though. I honestly found more expensive models like Qwen 3.6 to fail in tasks Deepseek nails.

I'm interested in knowing what people are using for tasks which require a bit more thinking. Kimi 2.6? Qwen 3.7? GLM 5.1?

[chillfox]

I don't think there's any open models at the moment that can handle the more challenging stuff.

The things that I use Opus for at work is finding bugs in about ~200k lines of microservices and libraries in a niche language. So, we will get these bug reports that are missing context, can't easily be reproduced on our dev server, and are usually the result of something deep in multiple services/libraries combining with very custom configs. I can ask Opus (max thinking) to find what could cause the bug, and it usually nails it in a few hours (would take me 1-2 weeks to trace it myself). The end result will be like less than 10 lines of code to fix it, some tests to reproduce the bug and a nice report explaining it, so it can be checked in an hour or two.

[Akamant]

17 GoLang microservices for a serious project were written perfectly using the latest version of QWEN(3.6). The only areas where we really had to work hard were documentation and a very serious task breakdown. All of this was tested, and yes, a review was required, but everything was within reason. The deadline was 10 days of 24/7 work, including the review. When attempting to submit the same task, Opus 4.7/4.6 had to be stopped after three hours. If you have significant resources for experimentation, you can certainly try. For us, the choice is absolutely clear at this point.