[Calavar]

If you're looking for international precedent, this is an old vs. new world issue. Birthright citizenship is rare in the old world, but it is the default for the Americas. Canada, most of Latin America, and a decent part of the Caribbean have birthright citizenship.

[yoble]

I thought France had it. It turns out France, Italy, Netherlands, UK, and Belgium have a conditional deferred version: you can become a citizen at 18 if you're born and have been living there (plus a few caveats).

[drstewart]

Agree, all the old world countries are stupid and all the talent is fleeing from France and the UK to countries like Uruguay and Bolivia

[Calavar]

Your sarcasm is misplaced because yes, this has unironically been true for large chunks of Latin American history.

- Argentinians in particular are over 60% of Italian descent.

- The richest man in Mexico was born to Lebanese immigrants.

- The chief military leader of the Chilean war of independence was born to an Irish immigrant.

- Peru had a president who was born to Japanese immigrants.

These countries have all, at various times, had an influx of overseas immigrants whose birthright citizen children rose to high stations in society.

[itsmek]

If you want to be genuine about investigating this issue you would obviously compare countries of equal wealth and economic power, but we all know that's not your goal. Could actually be a very interesting comparison if your reasoning weren't so motivated.

[drstewart]

Okay, do China. What's their policy on dual citizenship and accepting refugee seekers from Afghanistan?