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by siva7 23 days ago
How about wiping out an entire civilization? Not even necessary to hide this thought in your diary if you have enough power. I've seen today - in fact any day of this year - much worse things than his diary thoughts.
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Even if you think this this is what OpenAI is doing, they surely don't think that. So why would he write that in his diary?
I recall a comment that Sam was talking about selling AGI to the highest bidder, including hostile foreign governments, so not literally planning to destroy civilization but definitely selling it out.

And for any equivalencies of the current US regime and Russia and China, yes, that's a fair point but the implication is that they'd be selling to our enemies.

Well, gee. When you put it like that, Hitler existed, so really we can't fault anybody for anything short of orchestrating the genocide of 12 million people.
Musk engineered the deaths of 14 million people

https://time.com/article/2026/05/15/usaid-shutdown-rise-glob...

The quote is "could lead to 14 million additional deaths by 2030" and i dont like musk. But this is big difference.
He engineered it and it’s happening now. Check the estimate of deaths so far. Or wait a few more years to see sure.
Yeah bro, the US pulling foreign aid is directly causative of somebody starving to death.

lol

I mean.....it takes only a very cursory look over the programmes that USAid provided to see that it's more than likely?
That isn’t how causation works.

By your logic you could argue that if anybody on this planet starves to death then Americans can be blamed and ‘engineered it’, since they had the economic means to prevent it. You’re essentially trying to argue that inaction is a positive act, which it is not as a matter of logic and law universally.

Your logic is laughable on its face, obviously.

Americans have no more duty to look after non-Americans than anybody else.

If I provide cancer drugs to someone, and then suddenly stop, am I to blame for them dying of cancer? That doesn't imply that I have a moral duty to provide the drugs. But if I am providing them and then withdraw them, then there is some responsibility on my part?

>>You’re essentially trying to argue that inaction is a positive act

You've assumed I have a certain position then argue against it, not against what I actually said.

>>Your logic is laughable on its face, obviously

HN has a higher level of discussion than this