[dgellow]

Some countries with different politics like China do not seem to suffer the same issues, or at least not yet. Or maybe the country is defending a different status quo (the mono-party)? But they seem to be eager to develop the infrastructure and country as a whole.

Not that I would want to live under their political system, to be clear. I wish we could have a democratic system AND also be eager to develop our regions instead of being so protective of everything

[legulere]

I don’t think it’s different politics directly in China. The people believe that change means change for the better. In the west people have lost all hope for progress.

[dgellow]

The people of China don’t have much say, I’m not sure what they believe matters too much, the government has a strong control over the media and can and will silence dissenting voices.

In europe we’ve been generally pretty bad over the past decades at presenting positive arguments for liberalism, which is a shame. Similarly the EU is notoriously bad at communicating how it benefits the people, most of the communication assumes people already accepted it was a positive thing and already bought into European values, isn’t of arguing why they matter. The fact EU members blame EU institutions for their own local issues whenever something goes wrong doesn’t help…

[legulere]

The Chinese Government isn't like Russia where power is mostly legitimised by having power, like the law of the jungle. A big part of its legitimacy is from economic growth and lifting people out of poverty.

[dgellow]

Sure, I’m not sure what point you’re responding to