[jmull]

Most people probably think the text editor used would have no meaningful effect on the code written.

I don't think many would say the same for LLMs.

Maybe vibe bun is just as good or better than old bun, but how would we know at this point?

> ...we couldn’t have known if the author of a piece of software was proceeding with rigor...we didn’t judge someone’s software by inspecting their methodology...

That's not true. First, some people do directly check whether a project has a level of rigor they are comfortable with before adopting it (or when deciding whether to continue using it). I personally do it, where it matters. Many more use reputation signals, which, while certainly not perfect, correlate, may be good enough, and are a lot easier than direct, manual reviews.

[padjo]

> Maybe vibe bun is just as good or better than old bun, but how would we know at this point?

By considering objective facts like efficiency, performance, error rates, security vulns etc. like we always do?

[happytoexplain]

There is no such thing as "we always do" now.

We care about those things you listed and also the fact that code was written by (or exhaustively reviewed by) a sentient consciousness. It's just that the second thing has historically been implied. That's the difference you are experiencing.

[jmull]

These objective facts aren't known right now for vibe bun.

Someone would have to do a bunch of work to establish these things.

[callc]

Do you mind if I vibecode a fresh vehicle control software for your car?

Don’t worry, it’ll just be in a different language.