[DangitBobby]

You clearly haven't spent much time on YouTube, TikTok, Twitter, FaceBook, or really anywhere there is a huge community. Americans fucking HATE cyclists.

> The great majority don't care about it

My own dad will take any opportunity to actively bitch about perceived annoyances perpetrated by cyclists and opine about how useless bike lanes are expensive and not actually productive because people only use them for exercise. Why don't you try actually bringing up cyclists and bike lanes somewhere, especially in the south, and then you tell me what people think.

[Fricken]

Drivers mostly hate on other drivers, but they make time to hate other road users as well.

[mmooss]

> Americans fucking HATE cyclists.

I haven't met those Americans, somehow. Maybe it's just more social media nonsense - people joining the mob fun and far overestimating the loud voices?

[snayan]

This feels more like a the company you keep situation than social media nonsense.

You happen to have a social circle that doesn't have any issues with cyclists, perhaps there are a number of them in your group.

But there are almost assuredly social circles that feel otherwise, that revel at the opportunity to roll coal as they pass a group of cyclists, that joke about running them off the road.

A quick google indicates there have been numerous studies on the subject that seem to support the idea that bicyclists are often reviled by some portion of the population, correlated with those who rely heavily on automobiles.

And, I mean, just scrolling this thread seems to show plenty of anecdotes to support the idea. Seems pretty systemic given the breadth of the anecdata.

[mmooss]

I could be wrong, but ...

> just scrolling this thread seems to show plenty of anecdotes to support the idea. Seems pretty systemic given the breadth of the anecdata

That reasoning is the epitome of social media self-deception.

[snayan]

I mean sure, if you just ignore the rest of my comment and take that piece in isolation, then I suppose it could further support your claim.

[DangitBobby]

Did you ask them? Lots of things I don't like don't come up until it's relevant.

[8note]

i certainly dislike that roads everywhere are so wide so as to support two rows of parked cars and then also two lanes of car traffic.

that could easily be another row of houses or a pretty big park, over and over and over again through the whole city.

its an incredible amount of government money and city land tied up in black top that needs regular resurfacing, cleaning, plowing, etc