[com2kid]

> People lauding Chinese expediency in the context of industry and construction often don't realize it's almost entirely enabled by extreme underregulation and underenforcement of industrial safety standards

Kind of like Tesla's latest factories, or DR Horton building homes with massive problems from day 1?

Or Silicon Valley being a collection of superfund cleanup sites?

Or just the environmental pollution, in general, in Texas?

No one has figured out how to balance growth with safety. Ideally it shouldn't be hard, the total amount of money saved is pennies compared to the overall investment, but making everyone follow the rules via regulations ends to being a huge cost and time multiplier.

[ux266478]

The more direct comparison is the blue collar working conditions throughout the west in the late 19th and early 20th centuries actually. It is true that environmental protections could be much better in the United States, did you assume I would disagree or find it shocking? Why?

> but making everyone follow the rules via regulations ends to being a huge cost and time multiplier.

The cost and extra time it takes saves lives. That's the bottom line. It's your attitude that gets people maimed and killed.

[com2kid]

> The cost and extra time it takes saves lives. That's the bottom line. It's your attitude that gets people maimed and killed.

My argument, and I should have made it clearer, is that we are paying a huge penalty for people who are dishonest. The amount of money they save by being dishonest and endangering others is generally tiny, but the cost to society to prevent the dishonesty is huge in the form of regulations.