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by WalterBright 30 days ago
I was just watching "Shock and Awe", a documentary on Amazon, about the development of electrical theory and products.

It was driven largely by people who wanted to make money off of their inventions. None of the progress came from communist countries.

Did you know that Gutenberg invented the printing press in order to make money?

Did you know the Wright Bros invented the airplane in order to make money?

And so on and so forth.
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hackyhacky 30 days ago
> It was driven largely by people who wanted to make money off of their inventions.

I am getting a little tired of repeating myself, but you're evidently confused so I'll indulge you.

The opposition to capitalist as a monetary system does not imply the opposition to the profit motive. As I've said several times, and which you continue to ignore, the exchange of goods and services in the form of commerce requires the profit motive. Conflating my position with communism is a straw man.

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WalterBright 30 days ago
Well, you do repeat Marxist tenets, like the class struggle and the labor theory of value.
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hackyhacky 30 days ago
Just because they are Marxist tenets doesn't mean they aren't true. Feel free to refute them if you feel otherwise.
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WalterBright 30 days ago
> Just because they are Marxist tenets doesn't mean they aren't true.

Since Marxism never works, there's something definitely wrong with the tenets.

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hackyhacky 26 days ago
> Since Marxism never works, there's something definitely wrong with the tenets.

Are you familiar with the idea of a thought-terminating cliche [1]?

You have given yourself permission to ignore everything associated with Marxism because you've been taught that it's "wrong." If you actually thought about your statement, you'd realize that you are quasi-intentionally dismissing ideas without consideration.

1. What does it mean for Marxism to have been "tried"? Do you consider the Soviet Union to be Marxist? I don't.

2. Even if Marxism had been "tried" and failed, so what? Do we dismiss capitalism because of failed capitalist states?

3. Even if Marxism in practice was futile, does that mean that very idea espoused by Marx is necessarily wrong? No, it does not. Newtonian physics is "wrong" in light of relativistics but there is still very much right about it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_clich%C3%A...

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