[kristjansson]

I suspect subscription limits are quite a bit higher than the equivalent tokens their dollar cost could purchase. I similarly feel like I can get a lot done with a $20/mo Claude Pro subscriptions, but also can easily spend $10-20/day at API pricing with similar usage.

[brookst]

Yep. I get $6k - $8k worth of tokens (at api rates) using the $200 max subscription.

[lawn]

I don't understand why people are using the API pricing instead of the Pro/Max subscriptions? What am I missing?

[giancarlostoro]

Enterprise customers don't get that option. But also if you want a fully custom harness, you also don't get that option.

[sulam]

Personally I prefer the API pricing because I feel like I'm not going to get rug pulled on my work. When it comes to personal stuff, I use the shit out of my sub, but it's not making me money.

[kristjansson]

I’ve made the same argument On Here. Paying the full price (should!) make you consider you usage, pick the right model, delegate to cheaper/local providers, …. It makes you use the models the way they’re going to be used after the subsidy ends.

[TeMPOraL]

Depends on what you're optimizing for. I'd hope that "after the subsidy ends", the "cheaper/local providers" will be at the level of at least current SOTA models. If not, then there's hardly a point using them anyway; if yes, then by sticking to subscription workflow you'll be learning the very workflow you'll be using "after subsidy ends".

Either way, I don't see much point of intentional austerity in times of extreme growth. There will be time for austerity once the growth ends.

[HDThoreaun]

Anthropic is forcing large enterprises onto api billing instead of subscriptions.

[northern-lights]

Because with Max subscriptions, you have to use the Claude Agent SDK, which is basically running Claude Code underneath. You don't get to use the chat/Messages APIs with personal subscriptions, for that you need the API pricing.

[mrgoldenbrown]

Terms of service prohibit subscriptions for employees of companies bigger than X people. I suppose they could all sign up as individuals and try to get away with it but presumably that would look pretty obvious with a tiny bit of analytics.

[skeledrew]

No 5-hourly or weekly limit.

[skeledrew]

Can verify that I've gotten about $400 worth of tokens from my $20 sub.

[kridsdale1]

Now that sounds like a business I’d like to invest in! When’s that Anthropic IPO anyway?